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An update on the website status and league format


Kenu

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Hi everyone,

First of all, I want to apologize for the lack of communication on our side regarding the progress of the website and the league format. I have been extremely busy in my personal life and that has impacted my ability to spend as much time with the website as much as I would have liked to. Samuli (@Lurkins) has been very busy as well and as a result we were unable to open up the website for your testing as quickly as we wanted to. I hope  you can forgive us for this and continue to believe in us and NHL Gamer as much as we do.

Moving on to updating you on our progress:

Let's start with some great news: Samuli was able to locate our the problem we were having with the login functionality on our tournament website for a long time and getting that up and running has relieved us our biggest concerns and it allows us to move on to polishing the other aspects of the website.

Let's get some key information out there. We will discuss this further during the coming days, in order to keep this post brief.

We have decided to start the league with 60 teams, divided into 4 groups. Since this is the first league, we suggest that the teams in the groups are simply randomized. Each group will have 15 teams and every team inside a group plays each other twice (once at home, once away). 8 out of 15 teams in each group go to the playoffs, totaling 32 playoff teams. Playoffs will be best-of-seven.

The teams that are left out of the regular playoffs would play another type of playoffs for positions in the 2nd season. We can get into this more in a future blog post, but I have been in touch with @Billy44205 about his division concept and I personally think this is an interesting concept that is worth looking at. Unfortunately I don't have my notes with me at this time, so I will have to touch on the details in the next blog post. As all who read Billy's post about his vision, you know that it's a bit of information to chew.

In order for us to make sure that everyone finds the new site satisfying from the get-go, we have decided to open the site next week, on Friday the 4th of December. We want to give the teams roughly a week to get accustomed to the new site and enough time to add all of their team members. Thus we suggest that the league starts on the 14th of December. If the majority of teams feel like this is too late, we can agree to give teams less time to prepare their roster and look for an earlier date to get things going.

Please let us know in the poll and comments section how you feel about our suggested time-frame and ask any other questions that you might want answered.

 

On behalf of the NHL Gamer staff,

Kenneth

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If you voted that the 14th is too late, can you please write in the comments what date you would prefer and how long of a time do you think we should give the teams to get accustomed with the site and adding their roster?

How are you finding the blog posts btw - are they easy to find, or is it hard to notice when there is a new post?

Edit: I can see that the screenshots look pretty low quality. I literally used MS Paint to crop and save them, as I wasn't on my own computer. That may be the reason. :)

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Hey very great job Kenu and the supports! Thank you to take us to the future!
i Vote for 14th December so you get more time! You are Worth it!

 

 

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26 minutes ago, gzell60 said:

I think we could start a week earlier, that's 3 days to setup your team then. Should be enough time for everyone.

I agree, if all teams are on their toes despite this little silent period in between.

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We can definitely start earlier, we've been ready to go for weeks now and judging by what can be gleaned from the site, it looks great. If we start on the 14th we'll barely have time to get going before a potential christmas break - plus people are usually traveling to visit friends and family so it will make it that much harder to setup games. Kenu, if you feel the site will be ready on the 4th, I see no reason to give us players a full 10 days to coordinate - we can do better then that. I strongely suggest we start around the 8th-10th at the latest to make sure the league is off to a good start before christmas. 

Just my 2 cents. Also, good work Kenu!!!

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Nice kenu !! Yeah i voted "its too late" because if we start 14th, christmas break comes too soon... so maybe 7th would be better so we can play couple of weeks and then go and have christmas in peace ?B|

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@Kenu Will those 4 groups be drawn live by the way? I think that would be one important step to avoid complaints about groups being unfair (which they will inevitably be in this first tournament) :)

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Thanks for your comments all. We will do our best to start earlier.

@gzell60: I would prefer to do it with a random generator, while I do understand the dramatic "names drawn from a hat" aspect. With a random generator it's truly random and I can try to make some functionality so we can still do a live stream or something while we do it and announce the teams in group name by name. Of course there might be people yelling "rigged" then, but to be honest, I wouldn't even know how to rig it, as I don't know most of the teams. :D

I definitely see the drama aspect of it and would like to have some tension and anticipation instead of just a list that we spit out.

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I posted a reply to the other blog as I missed a couple earlier comments. Apparently that moved the other blog to #1 position, so this is a bump for this one, so it appears on the front page of the community. Below is also the comment by @VilberttoCarlos and my reply to it, as I assume most people would miss it otherwise:

On 11 Nov 2015 14:11:41, VilberttoCarlos said:

It would be great if you have a opportunity to upload a game (or clip of it) in to the game report.

In PlayStation 4 players can easily save the game with a share button. There is also players who have game capture devices etc including me. I think there is a lot of players who are interested to watch replays.

I also hope a some kind of "shoutbox" or something similar that was in consolehockey. Place where you can promoting your stream when there is a interesting game coming.

Hey @VilberttoCarlos,

Sorry I didn't notice your comment earlier! We won't have an upload option, as you can upload to YouTube, but we will have the option to submit your YouTube-video ID, which allows us to embed your video to our website. ;)

Shoutbox... yes! I was going to say that we already have that, but it's true it's only in the community side at this stage. We'll see how we can implement it. I would prefer to have the same shoutbox everywhere. If we are doing a live stream, then we can embed the Twitch chat.

Thanks to @Enkmanni for chiming in with his opinion too!

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On 2015-11-26 22:27:01, Kenu said:

Thanks for your comments all. We will do our best to start earlier.

@gzell60: I would prefer to do it with a random generator, while I do understand the dramatic "names drawn from a hat" aspect. With a random generator it's truly random and I can try to make some functionality so we can still do a live stream or something while we do it and announce the teams in group name by name. Of course there might be people yelling "rigged" then, but to be honest, I wouldn't even know how to rig it, as I don't know most of the teams. :D

I definitely see the drama aspect of it and would like to have some tension and anticipation instead of just a list that we spit out.

Random generator? No seedings? so then its a minor possibility of having all the strongest teams all together in the same group, and then it would become a not so realistic and exiting playoff after that? I strongly recommend to seed at least some of the teams in some way.

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Hmm.. guest posts should be disabled. Interesting. :)

Anyways, I guess partial seeding could be done. Not all teams have played enough games (especially 6vs6) to be able to be measured. But sure, we could consider putting the known top-teams in different groups. Keep the suggestions coming.

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Jimi and I think someone else had already suggested using the 6v6 leaderboard for seeding, then using randomizer. It's not worse than devising seeding based on who you think is better than who.

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49 minutes ago, Billy44205 said:

Jimi and I think someone else had already suggested using the 6v6 leaderboard for seeding, then using randomizer. It's not worse than devising seeding based on who you think is better than who.

 

37 minutes ago, Lauri said:

Seeding top 20 6vs6 monthly leaderboard. 

Yes, this might be the best idea. 1/3 of the teams would be seeded based on leaderboards and rest would be randomized.

Any thoughts from others on whether it should be all-time or monthly leaderboards?

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2 hours ago, Kenu said:

 

Yes, this might be the best idea. 1/3 of the teams would be seeded based on leaderboards and rest would be randomized.

Any thoughts from others on whether it should be all-time or monthly leaderboards?

I think monthly maybe.. because teams has changed and the roster has changed with many teams..maybe thats the best option

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What is this question? Of course All-time.

 

Not every team has been playing 24/7 since for example our team has been only waiting for ECL to play because our teams only motivation to play is ECL. I believe we are searching the best 6v6 teams to seed, not teams which have played the most this month. Basically if you want to be TOP-20 in monthly leaderboard, you just have to grind games. It doesn't matter if you win, all you need is to play for example 100 games and win around half of them and voilá you are TOP-20. And you can correct me but I think that doesn't make you ''TOP-20 team of Europe''.

EDIT: Actually checking TOP-20 monthly leaderboard now. You don't even need to win half of the games to get into it. Around 40% winning rate will make you into TOP-20, so I find this question very amusing. Of course if you want this kind of teams to be seeded, be my guest.

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16 minutes ago, FINSeRe said:

What is this question? Of course All-time.

 

Not every team has been playing 24/7 since for example our team has been only waiting for ECL to play because our teams only motivation to play is ECL. I believe we are searching the best 6v6 teams to seed, not teams which have played the most this month. Basically if you want to be TOP-20 in monthly leaderboard, you just have to grind games. It doesn't matter if you win, all you need is to play for example 100 games and win around half of them and voilá you are TOP-20. And you can correct me but I think that doesn't make you ''TOP-20 team of Europe''.

EDIT: Actually checking TOP-20 monthly leaderboard now. You don't even need to win half of the games to get into it. Around 40% winning rate will make you into TOP-20, so I find this question very amusing. Of course if you want this kind of teams to be seeded, be my guest.

I dont know what lists you look at but my list looks pretty much equal to all time aswell with winning %

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26 minutes ago, Lauri said:

Maybe, by the exception for removing american teams from seeding and its not really my concern id rather play the tougher teams from get go. 

No. The point was that you said that the both lists look almost the same and appereantly they don't. Anyways however this goes it's same by me, all I want is to play.

 

And Kenu, nice work!

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8 minutes ago, FINSeRe said:

No. The point was that you said that the both lists look almost the same and appereantly they don't. Anyways however this goes it's same by me, all I want is to play.

 

And Kenu, nice work!

Said winning %

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