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    FCL 6vs6 Playoffs - Round 1

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    Hi NHLGamers!

    We want to start by thanking all teams and players for making the hectic group stage as efficient and problem free as it has been! We've seen some great battles within each of the groups and it really was a nail-biter all the way to the last round!

    As the FCL was wrapped up tonight, a situation has arisen in which tiebreakers will have to be applied. The situation in question is as follows:

    Butterfly Effect (+43), Dynasty (+25), GHETTO FIREBIRDS (+22), Rusty Blades (+23), Symphony (+41) and TIKI TALK (+15)  all finished the season with 12 games played, 9 wins, & 19 points. The numbers in the brackets denote the goal differential for each team.

    Per the rulebook, in the event of such a tie occurring the following tiebreaks shall be used:

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    Original - in Finnish:

    Joukkueiden ollessa tasapisteissä runkosarjan jälkeen, paremmuusjärjestys erotellaan seuraavasti:

    • voitot (jatkoaikavoitot mukaan lukien)
    • pisteet keskinäisistä otteluista
    • maaliero
    • tehdyt maalit
    • arpa

    Translation:

    When teams are tied in points after the regular season, these are the used tie-breakers:

    • Amount of wins (including OTW)
    • Head-to-head results
    • Goal differential
    • Goals scored
    • Coin toss (randomized)

     

    Unfortunately, we failed to spot that having ‘head-to-head results’ would lead to some pretty major complications due to the multi-group setup that we are running with the FCL. While it works excellently within the groups or solely involving teams that played each other, it can not be implemented in this case. As such, we have decided that as this tiebreaker is only relevant to some of the teams (GHETTO FIREBIRDS vs Symphony and TIKI TALK vs Butterfly Effect), we will have to disregard it from the tie-breaking process and move straight to goal differential instead. Once again, this error is on us for not spotting the possible discrepancy in the rules, as the tie-break procedure was drawn up to be applied in a tournament setting where there is only one group, such as ECL: Elite, or at the very least a tournament with an even number of groups and cross-seeding in the first round. 

    Ergo, as no teams are tied regarding ‘goal differential’, Butterfly Effect will take #7, followed by #8 Symphony, #9 Dynasty, then Rusty Blades, and finally bringing up the rear of the group we have GHETTO FIREBIRDS at #11 and TIKI TALK at #12.With this out of the way then, we can now give everyone a full rundown of the seeding for the playoffs, which will be shown below. As always, we would like to extend a thanks to everyone for competing thus far, as well as wishing good luck to all of the remaining teams!

     

    The first round of playoffs is to be completed and reported by end-of-day Sunday July 21st. Playoffs are played best-of-3 - meaning two wins takes you to the next round.

    Dynasty.png Dynasty (#9) vsSymphony.pngSymphony (#8)

    Rusty%20Blades.pngRusty Blades (#10) vs Butterfly_Effect.pngButterfly Effect (#7) 

    Ghetto_Firebirds.pngGHETTO FIREBIRD (#11) vsraccoon_rampage.pngRaccoon Rampage (#6)

    TIKI%20TALK.pngTIKI TALK (#12)  vs Almost_Famous.png Almost Famous  (#5)

    Poggers.pngPOGGERS (#13)  vsHAVUGaming.pngHAVU Gaming (#4)

    HC_Wildcard.pngHC Wildcard (#14) vs Northern_Ascendancy.png Northern Ascendancy (#3)

    Mockba%20500x500.pngMockba (#15) vs Soppajengi.pngSOPPAJENGI (#2)

    Invictus%20500x500.pngInvictus (#16) vs  Filadelphia.png FILADELPHIA (#1)

     

    For future leagues/tournaments involving more groups, we believe that defining the head-to-head result being applied only within the group and adding a tie-breaker using the placement within the group (i.e. Dynasty #1 in group 4) as the third tie-breaker would help value the group standings better. Please share your opinion with us in the comments.

     

    Good luck to all the teams in the playoffs - we can't wait to see what happens next!



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    Yh, if you want more value for group stage in future, just put group winners to the seeds 2-6, runner-up teams to the seeds 7-11 and third placement teams to the seeds 12-16.

    New ranking would have been following:

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    1. FILA
    2. SOPPA
    3. NOR
    4. AF
    5. RAR
    6. DYN
    7. HAVU
    8. RB
    9. GFB
    10. TIKI
    11. POG
    12. FLY
    13. SYM
    14. HCW
    15. MOC
    16. INV

    Anyway, I hope in future NHLGamer can give us more time to play FCL, not only couple weeks + playoffs which are played in one day per series. More regular season games or something, like in SCL. At least we need to get rid of from these BO3-series (personally I hate BO3), give us more time in future to play BO5 or BO7, like in SCL. Oh my, is Swedish Championships better in these days? 😵 I know, time is limited, I know Kenu.

    For every team, good luck and have fun out there. Enjoy the playoffs, I know it can be over in 45 minutes but still. 😂

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    7 minuuttia sitten, kriketski17 kirjoitti:

    best teeam always win bo3. 

    I agree with you. I personally just love to play playoff games in 6v6 more than anything. Thats why I prefer BO5 and BO7 much much more than BO3.

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    1 tunti sitten, FlyerKungen kirjoitti:

    Yh, if you want more value for group stage in future, just put group winners to the seeds 2-6, runner-up teams to the seeds 7-11 and third placement teams to the seeds 12-16.

    I actually thought it would go like this. Makes just more sense this way. 

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    29 minuuttia sitten, Tanski87 kirjoitti:

    I actually thought it would go like this. Makes just more sense this way. 

    True, me too. Its nonsence that atm lower group rank team is higher in playoff rank. Kenu you really should fix this.

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    1 tunti sitten, itspardytime kirjoitti:

    True, me too. Its nonsence that atm lower group rank team is higher in playoff rank. Kenu you really should fix this.

    Changing the tournament format/rules when tournament is live isnt best idea. Some matchups has been advertised on social media and games might have been locked up already.. 😃

    But that could be the thing for future tournaments for sure.

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    8 minutes ago, xDoumi said:

    Changing the tournament format/rules when tournament is live isnt best idea. Some matchups has been advertised on social media and games might have been locked up already.. 😃

    But that could be the thing for future tournaments for sure.

    I agree, changing rules after everyone has seen who they are facing just doesn't make any sense.

    Definetly good format for future tournaments!

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    Big thanks to @FlyerKungen for his well written feedback and to everyone who's chimed in!

    I agree that there is room for fine-tuning especially in the brief Finnish 6vs6 rules that we made specifically for this purpose. We wanted to make them shorter and easier to read than for example the ECL rulebook, but the downside is that we lost some of the detail that makes the ECL rulebook so good (arguable! 😄).

    I would also like to see the FCL (& eSM) be more of a league (hence the name) with more time and a season feel to it and that is the goal for it next year.

    Regarding the BO3 vs BO5 vs BO7 - I would love for everything to be BO7 or at least BO5, but due to the time restrictions everyone is playing these games with we felt BO3 is the only format we can be sure that teams can finish during one night. As for the live portion of things, in order to be able to have 4 teams battling it out during one day, at least the semis have to be BO3 (and bronze battle BO1). The problem arises from potential OT's (which we love!) and schedules stretching out. Aside from player, commentator and studio personnel stamina, we have to remember that the audience might not want to watch for 9 hours straight either (Summer Cup 2 Draft ftw 😅). Of course as the NHL esport continues to grow and we can have more events/days it's easier to build a concept that gives a bit more freedom while not making the broadcasts intolerably long.

    And I will say, to avoid misunderstandings about what I said just above, that I'm very grateful for the confidence our partners have in us and that they let us make our own decisions how we best see fit. Especially with live events there's often a need to compromise so the event makes sense to more than the absolute HC fans.

    Keep the feedback coming - thank you!

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    5 tuntia sitten, FlyerKungen kirjoitti:

    I agree with you. I personally just love to play playoff games in 6v6 more than anything. Thats why I prefer BO5 and BO7 much much more than BO3.

    It was joke, bo5 and bo7 is where really the best team wins

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